C1 Expression Neutral 6 Min. Lesezeit

For that matter

Academic discourse marker used to connect ideas

Wörtlich: In regards to that specific subject or issue.

In 15 Sekunden

  • Used to add a related, often stronger, second point.
  • Usually placed at the end of a sentence or clause.
  • Functions like 'also' but with more emphasis and logic.
  • Common in both professional writing and everyday debates.

Bedeutung

Verwenden Sie dies, um einen zweiten Punkt hinzuzufügen, der mit dem ersten Punkt verwandt und oft genauso wichtig ist. Es zeigt, dass Ihre Logik auch für diesen neuen Punkt gilt.

Wichtige Beispiele

3 von 10
1

Complaining about a phone's performance

The camera on this phone is terrible, or the battery life `for that matter`.

The camera on this phone is terrible, and the battery life is too.

<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>
2

Declining an invitation for the whole weekend

I can't make it on Saturday, or Sunday `for that matter`.

I can't come on Saturday, and actually, I can't come on Sunday either.

<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>
3

A professional email about project requirements

We don't have the budget for a new hire, or a freelancer `for that matter`.

We can't afford a new employee or even a temporary freelancer.

<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M21 13.255A23.931 23.931 0 0112 15c-3.183 0-6.22-.62-9-1.745M16 6V4a2 2 0 00-2-2h-4a2 2 0 00-2 2v2m4 6h.01M5 20h14a2 2 0 002-2V8a2 2 0 00-2-2H5a2 2 0 00-2 2v10a2 2 0 002 2z"/></svg>
🌍

Kultureller Hintergrund

Often used in 'polite disagreement.' Instead of saying 'You're wrong,' a Brit might say, 'I'm not sure that's true, or relevant for that matter.' Used to show 'big picture' thinking. Managers use it to expand a small problem into a systemic one during meetings. Used to ensure all bases are covered in an argument. It signals that the speaker is being thorough and logical. Common in hard-boiled detective fiction to create a cynical, observant tone.

🎯

The 'Or' Rule

If you are using the phrase in a negative sentence, always use 'or' before the second item. 'I don't like X, or Y for that matter.'

⚠️

Don't Start with It

Never start a conversation with 'For that matter.' It needs a previous sentence to 'hook' onto.

In 15 Sekunden

  • Used to add a related, often stronger, second point.
  • Usually placed at the end of a sentence or clause.
  • Functions like 'also' but with more emphasis and logic.
  • Common in both professional writing and everyday debates.

What It Means

Ever found yourself halfway through a rant and realized your second point is actually bigger than your first? That is exactly where for that matter shines. It is the perfect linguistic bridge for adding an 'extra' point that reinforces what you just said. It feels like you are taking a step back to look at the bigger picture. It is like saying, 'Wait, I just realized this other thing is also true!'

What It Means

At its core, for that matter is an additive marker. It links two related subjects, usually making the second one seem even more relevant. If you say you do not like pizza, you might add that you do not like pasta for that matter. You are grouping them into a single category of 'things I do not like.' It shows that the reason for the first point also applies to the second. It has a vibe of 'while we are at it' or 'actually, that too.' It is not just about adding info; it is about extending your logic. It carries a slight emotional weight of realization or emphasis. It is the verbal version of a 'double-take' in a conversation.

How To Use It

You almost always place this phrase at the end of a sentence or clause. It acts like a punctuation mark for your logic. You start with a statement, then add a related one, and finish with for that matter. For example, 'I do not have the time, or the energy for that matter.' See how it slides right in at the end? You can also use it to introduce a broader category. If you are talking about a specific person, you might mention their whole family for that matter. It works best when the second point is a natural extension of the first. It is like a 'buy one, get one free' deal for your arguments. Just do not use it to connect things that are totally different. That would be like saying 'I love cats, or space travel for that matter.' Your friends will definitely give you a confused look!

Formality & Register

This phrase is quite versatile but leans toward a neutral or professional tone. You will hear it in job interviews, read it in news articles, or find it in academic essays. It sounds smart and well-organized. However, it is also perfectly fine for a debate over coffee with a friend. In very casual texting, people might just use 'also' or 'too' instead. It is like a blazer; you can wear it to a wedding or a nice lunch. It adds a layer of sophistication to your speech without sounding like a 19th-century poet. If you use it on a Zoom call, you will sound like you have really thought your point through. It is the perfect tool for sounding precise but not stiff.

Real-Life Examples

Imagine you are complaining about a bad movie on a TikTok comment. 'The acting was terrible, or the lighting for that matter.' Or maybe you are at a job interview. 'I am very familiar with Python, or Java for that matter.' It shows a range of skills. In a group chat about a party, someone might say, 'I can't go Friday, or any day this weekend for that matter.' It effectively cancels the whole weekend in one go. You will also see it in tech reviews. 'This phone has a bad battery, or a bad screen for that matter.' It helps critics pile on the reasons for their opinions. It is everywhere once you start listening for it.

When To Use It

Use it when you want to show that your logic applies to more than one thing. It is great for emphasizing a point by adding another similar one. Use it when you want to sound persuasive in an argument. It is perfect for professional emails when you need to list multiple requirements. 'We need the reports by noon, or the raw data for that matter.' It also works well when you are being inclusive. 'This applies to teachers, or anyone in the school for that matter.' It helps you cover all your bases in a single sentence. It is a great way to avoid repeating yourself too much. It keeps the flow of the conversation moving forward smoothly.

When NOT To Use It

Do not use it if the two things you are comparing are not related. If you say 'I like apples, or cars for that matter,' it makes no sense. The two ideas must share a common theme or reason. Also, avoid using it too much in a single paragraph. It can start to sound repetitive and a bit robotic. It is not a replacement for 'because' or 'therefore.' It is strictly for adding a related point. Do not use it at the very beginning of a conversation. You need a first point to refer back to! It is a 'second-step' phrase, not an 'opening' phrase.

Common Mistakes

One big mistake is mixing it up with no matter. They sound similar but are totally different. No matter means 'regardless,' while for that matter means 'also.' Another error is putting it at the start of the sentence. While not strictly illegal, it feels very clunky and unnatural to native speakers. Stick to the end of the clause.

✗ No matter what he says, or for that matter, I don't care.

✓ He doesn't like the food, or the service for that matter.

Don't forget the comma before the phrase when it is at the end. It helps the reader pause and realize you are adding a new point.

Common Variations

If you want to mix it up, you can use as a matter of fact. This is more about stating a truth. In fact is another good alternative for adding emphasis. If you are being very formal, you might use furthermore or moreover. In casual speech, you might just say and also. Some people say for that reason, but that explains 'why' rather than adding a 'what.' If you are in the UK, you might hear as it happens in similar contexts. It is good to have options so you do not sound like a broken record.

Real Conversations

A

Alex

I don't think I can finish this project by tonight.
S

Sam

Why not?
A

Alex

I don't have the software installed, or the login details for that matter.
S

Sam

That is a problem.
S

Sarah

Are you going to the concert?
M

Mike

No, I don't like the band, or the venue for that matter.
S

Sarah

Fair enough, the sound there is usually terrible.

Quick FAQ

Is it formal? It is neutral to formal. Can I use it in a text? Yes, it works for emphasis. Does it mean 'because'? No, it means 'also' or 'as well.' Where does it go? Usually at the end of the sentence. Is it common? Yes, very common in both speech and writing. It is a true workhorse of the English language. Use it with confidence!

Nutzungshinweise

Use 'for that matter' to link two ideas where the second is an extension or intensification of the first. It usually appears at the end of a clause or sentence and requires a preceding comma for clarity. It is common in both spoken and written English, spanning neutral to formal registers.

🎯

The 'Or' Rule

If you are using the phrase in a negative sentence, always use 'or' before the second item. 'I don't like X, or Y for that matter.'

⚠️

Don't Start with It

Never start a conversation with 'For that matter.' It needs a previous sentence to 'hook' onto.

💬

Sounding Authoritative

Use this phrase in presentations to show you have considered multiple angles of a problem.

Beispiele

10
#1 Complaining about a phone's performance
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>

The camera on this phone is terrible, or the battery life `for that matter`.

The camera on this phone is terrible, and the battery life is too.

The speaker is grouping two negative features together.

#2 Declining an invitation for the whole weekend
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>

I can't make it on Saturday, or Sunday `for that matter`.

I can't come on Saturday, and actually, I can't come on Sunday either.

Using the phrase to extend a limitation to a broader timeframe.

#3 A professional email about project requirements
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M21 13.255A23.931 23.931 0 0112 15c-3.183 0-6.22-.62-9-1.745M16 6V4a2 2 0 00-2-2h-4a2 2 0 00-2 2v2m4 6h.01M5 20h14a2 2 0 002-2V8a2 2 0 00-2-2H5a2 2 0 00-2 2v10a2 2 0 002 2z"/></svg>

We don't have the budget for a new hire, or a freelancer `for that matter`.

We can't afford a new employee or even a temporary freelancer.

Adds a second related financial restriction.

#4 Instagram caption about a bad travel day
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>

My flight was delayed four hours, and I lost my luggage `for that matter`.

My flight was late, and to make it worse, I lost my bags.

Emphasizes a series of unfortunate events.

#5 Talking about food preferences at a dinner party
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>

I'm not a big fan of spicy food, or anything too salty `for that matter`.

I don't like spicy food, and I don't really like salty food either.

Connects two different but related dietary preferences.

#6 Job interview discussing software skills
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M21 13.255A23.931 23.931 0 0112 15c-3.183 0-6.22-.62-9-1.745M16 6V4a2 2 0 00-2-2h-4a2 2 0 00-2 2v2m4 6h.01M5 20h14a2 2 0 002-2V8a2 2 0 00-2-2H5a2 2 0 00-2 2v10a2 2 0 002 2z"/></svg>

I haven't used Photoshop in years, or any Adobe products `for that matter`.

I haven't used Photoshop lately, or any other Adobe software.

Broadens a specific negative to a whole category.

Mistake example: Wrong position Häufiger Fehler
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>

✗ For that matter, I don't like the color or the shape. → ✓ I don't like the color, or the shape `for that matter`.

I don't like the color or the shape.

Native speakers almost always place the phrase at the end.

Mistake example: Confusion with 'no matter' Häufiger Fehler
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>

✗ No matter I don't have money, I will buy it. → ✓ It doesn't matter that I don't have money, or a job `for that matter`, I will buy it.

It doesn't matter that I don't have money or a job, I'll buy it.

Don't confuse 'for that matter' with 'no matter.'

#9 Humorous complaint about a sibling
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M14.828 14.828a4 4 0 01-5.656 0M9 10h.01M15 10h.01M21 12a9 9 0 11-18 0 9 9 0 0118 0z"/></svg>

My brother can't cook toast, or boil water `for that matter`.

My brother is so bad at cooking he can't even boil water.

Uses exaggeration to make a funny point about incompetence.

#10 Emotional reflection on a friendship
<svg class="w-5 h-5" fill="none" stroke="currentColor" viewBox="0 0 24 24" aria-hidden="true"><path stroke-linecap="round" stroke-linejoin="round" stroke-width="2" d="M4.318 6.318a4.5 4.5 0 000 6.364L12 20.364l7.682-7.682a4.5 4.5 0 00-6.364-6.364L12 7.636l-1.318-1.318a4.5 4.5 0 00-6.364 0z"/></svg>

I haven't seen him in months, or heard from him `for that matter`.

I haven't seen him for a long time, and he hasn't even called.

Adds a second layer of distance to a relationship.

Teste dich selbst

Complete the sentence with the correct phrase.

I don't have the keys to the office, or the alarm code ________.

✓ Richtig! ✗ Nicht ganz. Richtige Antwort: for that matter

We are adding a second related item (alarm code) to a negative statement (don't have keys).

Which sentence uses the phrase correctly?

Select the correct usage:

✓ Richtig! ✗ Nicht ganz. Richtige Antwort: I don't like spicy food, or salty food for that matter.

This correctly uses the phrase to add a second related dislike.

Fill in the missing line in the dialogue.

A: 'Is the CEO coming to the meeting?' B: 'No, he's in London. ________, no one from the executive team is coming.'

✓ Richtig! ✗ Nicht ganz. Richtige Antwort: For that matter

'For that matter' works best here because it expands the 'matter' from just the CEO to the whole executive team.

🎉 Ergebnis: /3

Visuelle Lernhilfen

Aufgabensammlung

3 Aufgaben
Complete the sentence with the correct phrase. Fill Blank B2

I don't have the keys to the office, or the alarm code ________.

✓ Richtig! ✗ Nicht ganz. Richtige Antwort: for that matter

We are adding a second related item (alarm code) to a negative statement (don't have keys).

Which sentence uses the phrase correctly? Choose C1

Select the correct usage:

✓ Richtig! ✗ Nicht ganz. Richtige Antwort: I don't like spicy food, or salty food for that matter.

This correctly uses the phrase to add a second related dislike.

Fill in the missing line in the dialogue. dialogue_completion C1

A: 'Is the CEO coming to the meeting?' B: 'No, he's in London. ________, no one from the executive team is coming.'

✓ Richtig! ✗ Nicht ganz. Richtige Antwort: For that matter

'For that matter' works best here because it expands the 'matter' from just the CEO to the whole executive team.

🎉 Ergebnis: /3

Häufig gestellte Fragen

10 Fragen

It is neutral to formal. You can use it with friends, but it's also very common in business and academic writing.

Yes! For example: 'She is a great singer, and for that matter, a talented actress too.'

'Moreover' just adds information. 'For that matter' adds information that is specifically related to the *subject* already being discussed.

Usually, yes. It can occasionally start a new sentence, but the end of the clause is the most natural spot.

Yes, it is used globally across all major English dialects, including British, American, Australian, and Canadian.

No, 'for that matter' is a fixed idiom. Changing 'that' to 'this' makes it sound incorrect.

No. 'By the way' introduces a new, often unrelated topic. 'For that matter' stays on the same topic.

Use it as an afterthought to show you are thinking deeply about what you are saying.

Absolutely. It's a great transition phrase for academic writing to link two supporting points.

Confusing it with 'for that reason' (causation).

Verwandte Redewendungen

🔄

As far as that goes

synonym

Used to say that something is also true or that you are adding a related point.

🔗

In that regard

similar

Concerning the point just mentioned.

🔗

Furthermore

builds on

In addition to what has been said.

🔗

While we're at it

similar

Used to suggest doing something else while you are doing the first thing.

War das hilfreich?
Noch keine Kommentare. Sei der Erste, der seine Gedanken teilt!