Trump is 'shopping messages' on Iran war 'to find out what works’: Yale’s Jeffrey Sonnenfeld

FOR THE LAST DECADE, DONALD

FOR THE LAST DECADE, DONALD TRUMP HAS DRASTICALLY RESHAPED

TRUMP HAS DRASTICALLY RESHAPED THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND RESHAPED AMERICAN POLITICS

RESHAPED AMERICAN POLITICS ALTOGETHER. IN HIS UPCOMING NEW

ALTOGETHER. IN HIS UPCOMING NEW BOOK, TRUMP'S TEN COMMANDMDMENT,

BOOK, TRUMP'S TEN COMMANDMENTS, JEFFREY SONNENFELD, A YALE

JEFFREY SONNENFELD, A YALE UNIVERSITY SCHOLAR ANDND INFORML

UNIVERSITY SCHOLAR AND INFORMAL ADVISER TO FIVE U.S. PRERESIDEN,

ADVISER TO FIVE U.S. PRESIDENTS, OUTLINES THE TEN PRINCIPLES

OUTLINES THE TEN PRINCIPLES THAT HAVE DEFINED THE TRUMP EREA

THAT HAVE DEFINED THE TRUMP ERA OF POLITICS. JEFFREY SONNENFELD

OF POLITICS. JEFFREY SONNENFELD JOINS ME NOW. JEFFREY, THANK

JOINS ME NOW. JEFFREY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEINING HERE TO

YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE BOOK. AND I WANT

TALK ABOUT THE BOOK. AND I WANT TO START FIRST WITH YOUR

TO START FIRST WITH YOUR RELATIONSHIP TO THE PRESIDENT.

RELATIONSHIP TO THE PRESIDENT. HOW DID YOU COME TO KNOW DONALD

HOW DID YOU COME TO KNOW DONALD TRUMP?

TRUMP? >> WELL, IT'S AN INTERESTING

>> WELL, IT'S AN INTERESTING STORY. BACK WHEN J JEFF ZUCKER

STORY. BACK WHEN JEFF ZUCKER WAS RUNNING THIS, THIS, THIS

WAS RUNNING THIS, THIS, THIS GREAT ENTERPRISE, HE WAS

GREAT ENTERPRISE, HE WAS RUNNING NBC UNIVERSAL. HE ASKED

RUNNING NBC UNIVERSAL. HE ASKED IF I WOULD WRITE A REVIEW EACH

IF I WOULD WRITE A REVIEW EACH WEEK FOR THE FIRST EPISODE, THE

WEEK FOR THE FIRST EPISODE, THE FIRST ISSUES, THE FIRST SEASON

FIRST ISSUES, THE FIRST SEASON OF THE APPRENTICE. AND I WOULD

OF THE APPRENTICE. AND I WOULD GO IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL,

GO IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, SO I, I HE WOULD GET THEM TO ME

SO I, I HE WOULD GET THEM TO ME A DAY IN ADVANCE. AND HE

A DAY IN ADVANCE. AND HE THOUGHT TO BE POSITIVE MESSAGES,

THOUGHT TO BE POSITIVE MESSAGES, BUT I LOOKED AT THEM. THEY WERE

BUT I LOOKED AT THEM. THEY WERE UNBELIEVABLE AS I REFERRED TO

UNBELIEVABLE AS I REFERRED TO IT AS, YOU KNOW, THE

IT AS, YOU KNOW, THE ELIMINATION GAME PREMISE, THAT

ELIMINATION GAME PREMISE, THAT IT WAS SORT OF LIKE E A MUSICAL

IT WAS SORT OF LIKE A MUSICAL CHAIRS GAME AT HOOTERS

CHAIRS GAME AT HOOTERS RESTAURANT WITH THE SEXIST

RESTAURANT WITH THE SEXIST OVERVIEW THAT IT HAD, BECAUSUSE

OVERVIEW THAT IT HAD, BECAUSE THE OUTTAKES ARE PRETTY SCARY,

THE OUTTAKES ARE PRETTY SCARY, THAT NOTHING THAT ACCESS

THAT NOTHING THAT ACCESS HOLLYWOOD NEEDED TO DISCOVER

HOLLYWOOD NEEDED TO DISCOVER LATER. WE SEE THESE THINGS. AND

LATER. WE SEE THESE THINGS. AND SO IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT, HE'S

SO IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT, HE'S A LITTLE SENSITIVE TO CRITICISM,

A LITTLE SENSITIVE TO CRITICISM, AND HE WAS A LITTLE THREATENING

AND HE WAS A LITTLE THREATENING AFTER THE FIRST FIRST REVIEW,

AFTER THE FIRST FIRST REVIEW, WHERE IT WAS LABELED LAST

WHERE IT WAS LABELED LAST EMPEROR, TRUMP AND I PREDICTED

EMPEROR, TRUMP AND I PREDICTED HE WOULD R RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

HE WOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT. THIS WAS 2004. AND H HE SAID,

THIS WAS 2004. AND HE SAID, WELL, TO ZUCKER, NBC AND WALL

WELL, TO ZUCKER, NBC AND WALL STREET JOURNAL, TEAR IT UP, AND

STREET JOURNAL, TEAR IT UP, AND THE WALL STREET JOURNAL SAID,

THE WALL STREET JOURNAL SAID, NO, YOU CAN GET TRAFFIC OUT OF

NO, YOU CAN GET TRAFFIC OUT OF THIS. LET HIM SEE NEXT WEEK. SO

THIS. LET HIM SEE NEXT WEEK. SO I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO RECANT.

I SAID, I'M NOT GOING TO RECANT. I SAID, YEAH, YOU HAVE TO

I SAID, YEAH, YOU HAVE TO RESCIND. SO I LOOKED AT IT AND

RESCIND. SO I LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, YOU KNOW, MR. TRUMP ASKED

SAID, YOU KNOW, MR. TRUMP ASKED IF I WOULD RESCIND IT. A AND, YU

IF I WOULD RESCIND IT. AND, YOU KNOW, I DO. I THOUGHT I WOULD,

KNOW, I DO. I THOUGHT I WOULD, AND LAST WEEK I SAID THAT WAS

AND LAST WEEK I SAID THAT WAS THE WORST POSSIBLE PORTRAIT T OF

THE WORST POSSIBLE PORTRAIT OF BUSINESS LEADERSHIP ON

BUSINESS LEADERSRSHIP ON TELEVISION, I COULD IMAGINE,

TELEVISION, I COULD IMAGINE, FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO FOLLOW. BUT

FOR YOUNG PEOPLELE TO FOLLOW. BT I HADN'T SEEN THIS WEEKS, AND