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How Money Laundering Actually Works | How Crime Works | Insider
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My name is Robert Mazur.
I spent two years undercover
laundering tens of millions of dollars
for Pablo Escobar's cartel.
This is how crime works.
Money laundering enables cartels
to produce the most lethal thing
that they produce around the world, and that's corruption.
It enables them to be able to control countries,
presidents of countries.
Operation C-Chase was a multiagency task force
to prosecute the biggest money launderers
of the Medellín cartel.
Most of the people I dealt with
were high-level drug traffickers
who had hundreds of millions of dollars.
I'm doing this interview in silhouette
because two agencies and an intelligence agency informed me
that the Medellín cartel issued a contract on my life.
I spent a year and a half putting together what I think
is one of the more sophisticated fronts used in undercover.
I built the persona of Robert Musella.
I dressed the part. Certainly had the lifestyle.
Drove a Rolls-Royce, Mercedes, Jaguar.
I was embedded in real businesses.
Had an air charter service with a private jet.
We had a jewelry chain with 30 locations on the East Coast.
A lot of cash goes through the Diamond District
every single day.
So if you've got those kinds of businesses,
you have a very good excuse for where the cash came from.
I was embedded in an investment company,
a mortgage-brokerage business, and even a brokerage firm
with a seat on the New York Stock Exchange.
And then I and my partner began
a two-year infiltration of the Medellín cartel
and the banks that were supporting them.
One of the keys to doing undercover work
is to build your undercover persona
to have as many traits as you do in common.
Robert Musella was from Staten Island.
I'm from Staten Island.
Robert Musella was a businessman.
I have a business background.
I didn't fake accents, fake anything.
I was always just me.
The first person I met
that was working within the Medellín cartel
is a gentleman by the name of Gonzalo Mora,
a small-time money launderer
who had an import-export business.
But the capacity he had to launder
was probably limited to about $50,000 a week at best.
We had my partner, Emir, deal with him
and simply say, "Listen, my boss handles a lot of this,
but he never wants to meet you.
He wants to stay in the shadows.
But if you could ever convince him
to come out of the shadows, the rivers would open
and you'd be able to launder untold amounts of money."
By the end of that six months,
Gonzalo Mora was banging on the door to meet me.
You know, it's always best to play hard to get.
I also knew these people have a sixth sense.
If you're afraid of a dog, they know that.
You're the first one they bite.
I didn't want to get bit,
so I knew that I would be
working against myself
and undermining my cause
if I showed any fear whatsoever.
And I told him eventually,
"Listen, I have to get these people to understand
that they need to let me invest some of their money.
Your only responsibility is to introduce me to them.
If I succeed, we'll even do business bigger."
He felt compelled to make the introductions,
and then I started to climb up the ladder,
to meet bigger and bigger people.
You know, money launderers, like I played the role of,
are basically operating
what's called the black-money market.
It's an informal banking system that's made available
to people who operate through the underground.
So, as a black-money-market operator,
I have a supply of dollars.
My supply comes from drug traffickers.
Now I have to find people who have a demand for dollars.
People who want to buy dollars
are oftentimes importers around the world
who otherwise have to go through their central bank
and spend 25% of their money to officially get dollars.
I could sell it to them for 10%.
My traffickers, in many instances, wanted Colombian pesos.
So the best people I could sell those dollars to
were Colombian importers.
All I have to do is swap.
So, I have supply clients, traffickers, and demand clients.
But most often the money would wind up into bank accounts
controlled by the cartel, in Panama,
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