C1 Expression Formal

لا جدوى منه

la gdo mnh

Useless, no point

Meaning

Something that serves no purpose or brings no benefit.

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Cultural Background

In the Levant, people often use 'Ma fi fayda' (ما في فايدة) in daily life, but 'La jadwa' is very common in the highly active local news media and political discourse. Egyptians might say 'Mafish fayda' (مفيش فايدة), a phrase famously attributed to the nationalist leader Saad Zaghloul on his deathbed (though the context is debated). 'La jadwa' remains the choice for formal writing. In formal business environments in the Gulf, 'La jadwa' is used to politely but firmly reject proposals that are not economically viable. Due to the strong influence of French, speakers might code-switch, but in 'Fusha' (MSA) contexts, 'La jadwa' is the standard term used in literature and law.

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The Feminine Switch

Always check the gender of the object. If you're talking about a 'Sayyara' (car), it's 'minha'. This is the #1 mistake for C1 learners.

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Don't be too harsh

Using this about a person's work to their face is very blunt. Use 'ربما نحتاج لتغيير الخطة' (Maybe we need to change the plan) instead.

Meaning

Something that serves no purpose or brings no benefit.

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The Feminine Switch

Always check the gender of the object. If you're talking about a 'Sayyara' (car), it's 'minha'. This is the #1 mistake for C1 learners.

⚠️

Don't be too harsh

Using this about a person's work to their face is very blunt. Use 'ربما نحتاج لتغيير الخطة' (Maybe we need to change the plan) instead.

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The 'Khalas' Connection

This phrase is often the logical conclusion before someone says 'Khalas' (Finished/Enough).

Test Yourself

Fill in the blank with the correct form (minhu or minha).

محاولة إقناعها بالبقاء لا جدوى _______.

✓ Correct! ✗ Not quite. Correct answer: منها

The subject is 'Muhawala' (attempt), which is a feminine noun in Arabic.

Which of the following is the most formal way to say 'It's no use'?

اختر الجملة الأكثر فصاحة:

✓ Correct! ✗ Not quite. Correct answer: لا جدوى منه

'لا جدوى منه' is the standard Modern Standard Arabic (MSA) form used in formal contexts.

Match the situation to the most appropriate use of the phrase.

أي موقف يناسبه قول 'النقاش لا جدوى منه'؟

✓ Correct! ✗ Not quite. Correct answer: عندما يكون الطرف الآخر متعصباً ولا يستمع

The phrase is used when effort (like arguing) will not lead to a result because of a barrier (like stubbornness).

Complete the dialogue.

أحمد: هل ستصلح هذا الراديو القديم؟ خالد: لا، لقد فحصته ووجدت أن _______.

✓ Correct! ✗ Not quite. Correct answer: لا جدوى منه

'Radio' is masculine, so 'minhu' is the correct agreement.

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Visual Learning Aids

Practice Bank

4 exercises
Fill in the blank with the correct form (minhu or minha). Fill Blank B1

محاولة إقناعها بالبقاء لا جدوى _______.

✓ Correct! ✗ Not quite. Correct answer: منها

The subject is 'Muhawala' (attempt), which is a feminine noun in Arabic.

Which of the following is the most formal way to say 'It's no use'? Choose A2

اختر الجملة الأكثر فصاحة:

✓ Correct! ✗ Not quite. Correct answer: لا جدوى منه

'لا جدوى منه' is the standard Modern Standard Arabic (MSA) form used in formal contexts.

Match the situation to the most appropriate use of the phrase. situation_matching B2

أي موقف يناسبه قول 'النقاش لا جدوى منه'؟

✓ Correct! ✗ Not quite. Correct answer: عندما يكون الطرف الآخر متعصباً ولا يستمع

The phrase is used when effort (like arguing) will not lead to a result because of a barrier (like stubbornness).

Complete the dialogue. dialogue_completion B1

أحمد: هل ستصلح هذا الراديو القديم؟ خالد: لا، لقد فحصته ووجدت أن _______.

✓ Correct! ✗ Not quite. Correct answer: لا جدوى منه

'Radio' is masculine, so 'minhu' is the correct agreement.

🎉 Score: /4

Frequently Asked Questions

4 questions

It's grammatically possible but very rude. It implies the person has no value. Better to say 'لا جدوى من الاعتماد عليه' (No use in relying on him).

'La Jadwa' is more formal and literary. 'La Fa'ida' is more common in daily conversation.

The root J-D-W appears, but this specific three-word phrase is more characteristic of later classical and modern prose.

Just add 'Kana' (كان) at the beginning: 'كان لا جدوى منه'.

Related Phrases

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لا فائدة منه

synonym

No benefit from it

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دون جدوى

similar

To no avail

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هباءً منثوراً

specialized form

Scattered dust

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ضياع للوقت

similar

A waste of time

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عقيم

similar

Sterile/Fruitless

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