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How China's 'Perfect' Spy Got Caught | Bloomberg Investigates

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He was kind of awkward.

00:14

He was very goofy.

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He does not read like a Chinese spy.

00:21

I at least had in my head this idea of a spy

00:23

of James Bond.

00:24

Somebody jumping out of airplanes and that is not Ji.

00:38

This story is about aviation secrets,

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in particular, jet engine trade secrets.

00:43

These are technologies that China wants very badly.

00:46

It was in the paper every day.

00:46

What China is alleged to be stealing en masse

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from the United States.

00:51

The playbook is simple.

00:53

Rob, replicate and replace.

00:56

We cannot tolerate a nation

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that steals the fruits of our brainpower.

01:00

Ji was almost like a pack rat when it came

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to electronic information.

01:04

You have text messages, you have videos, you have photos,

01:08

you have so much digital evidence about what he was doing.

01:12

What type of real spy is going to take a photo

01:15

of a top secret blood oath?

01:18

No one. Mr. Bean would do that. He was almost like a kid.

01:24

I think it was clear Ji was a stand-in for some

01:26

of the bigger conflicts that were going on

01:28

between China and the United States.

01:30

His goal was to get US citizenship.

01:33

To become an intelligence officer.

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Ji was on that path.

02:05

When I met Ji, I just thought he was this cute,

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quirky guy.

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He felt like an extrovert to me

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because he just, I don't know, was so goofy

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and would talk to anyone.

02:19

He really did have a pureness to him.

02:21

He just, you know, seemed like he just wanted to do good.

02:27

To have such a happy-go-lucky personality takes

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so much energy,

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it feels like it would be authentic.

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But who's to say?

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I've covered China for a long time

02:53

and Ji Chaoqun in many ways is kind

02:56

of the prototypical college kid for most of this story.

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He goes to a very prestigious university,

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the Beijing University of Aeronautics and Astronautics,

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and he studied aviation engineering.

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This is a very important topic for the Chinese government.

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Jet engines are one of the hardest

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to replicate technologies.

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These were developed primarily during World War II

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and for many decades the US and Europe have held a monopoly.

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China has expended a lot of effort

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and energy on stealing those technologies.

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Or trying to.

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Ji is at a job fair about six months

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before he is set to graduate with his engineering degree

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and he sees this kind of mysteriously labeled booth

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where there's a person who's purporting

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to be a professor recruiting for what he only describes

03:44

as a confidential unit.

03:46

It doesn't take long for Ji to realize

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that he's being recruited

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for the Ministry of State Security,

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China's premier intelligence agency.

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MSS stands for the Ministry of State Security

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and it's basically China's main intelligence agency.

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Think of a combination between the CIA and the FBI.

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The MSS doesn't really see a distinction between spying

04:36

for the government and spying for Chinese companies

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and getting the kind of secrets they would be interested in

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in their attempt to catch up and surpass their competitors.

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The vast majority of the actual MSS officers stay in China

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and never leave China, and so there's zero risk to them.

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Ji is unusual in that he is someone who is recruited in China

04:57

and sent overseas really as an MSS agent.

05:03

There are two reasons the MSS was interested in Ji.

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One, he had technical knowledge

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that could help them identify trade secrets to steal

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and the other was that he had a visa to travel

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to the US and he was clean.

05:14

So in that sense, he's the perfect person to recruit

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to go spy in the US.

05:19

They are really laying it on thick

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that this would be a really cool kind of sexy,

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interesting opportunity.

05:24

They're taking him out to dinners.

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They really wine and dine him.

05:27

It was also something that appealed to his sense

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of helping his country.

05:31

He was into like the military.

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